Eurail Passes are famous as a way to save money while exploring Europe, but they are also confusing and often misunderstood. They are still an amazing money-saving tool for certain types of travelers, and not a wise idea for most others. Before Europe introduced dynamic rail pricing (like airfares, where the price varies depending on when you buy it), a Eurail Pass was an easy way to save money since all tickets had fixed prices that were generally fairly expensive. These days most travelers can save far more money just by buying their train tickets at least a few weeks in advance.
That said, Eurail Passes are still great for longer trips and especially for people who like to make plans as they go. Dynamic rail pricing made advanced tickets much cheaper, but it also made last-minute tickets MUCH more expensive. Below we will discuss Eurail Passes and whether they are a good idea for your trip or not.
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Note: This article was written in 2012 and has been continuously updated since then, so all information is current as of April, 2024.
Eurail 2024 changes: New countries and a mobile version
This actually changed in 2019 and 2020, but it’s still a big deal and not many people were shopping for Eurail passes in the last couple of years. Eurail Passes now include England, Scotland, Wales, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and Macedonia.
Aside from that it’s just the normal fact that they have updated the timetables as of December 2023 and have a few promotions going on, but those usually don’t happen over the busy summer season.
Eurail passes are now available in a mobile version
Until very recently, Eurail Passes were only available in paper form and they were quite confusing at first. You’d get a pass with a series of empty boxes on it and you’d need to enter your trip before you’d use your pass each day and then have the first conductor verify it. If you lost your ticket (and this was not uncommon), it was a whole ordeal to attempt to get a replacement.
Again in 2024 Eurail offers a fully mobile version that is delivered instantly to your mobile device with no delivery fee. And if you somehow lose your phone, you can resume using your Pass on your replacement with no extra headache. This is MUCH more convenient in every way and as long as you can keep track of your phone you’ll always have your train pass handy.
If your trip will be 2 weeks or less, a Eurail Pass probably won't be worth it
About half of the questions I get in the lengthy comment thread of this article are from people planning a trip of 3 or 4 stops in two weeks or less. The good news for those travelers is that they can get fairly cheap train tickets in advance online if they have their dates planned, and a Eurail Pass won’t help at all.
Eurail Passes are ideal for travelers on longer trips, and especially those who don’t want to plan all of their destinations and dates far in advance. If you have your itinerary pretty much planned out and you don’t require much flexibility, you’ll be far better off just locking in your dates and buying your train tickets as early as you can. Again, they can be surprisingly cheap if you buy 2 to 4 months out.
If you are age 27 or younger, a Eurail Pass is probably worth it
Those 28 years old or over must buy the 1st Class version of any Eurail Pass, which is 50% more expensive, and the added comfort isn’t a big deal to most people. But travelers age 12 to 27 can buy the 2nd Class versions at the lowest prices, and the seats are comfortable enough for virtually everyone.
With this in mind, if you are lucky enough to still be 27 or younger, you should seriously think about getting a Eurail Global Pass Youth, partly because the sense of freedom instantly gets more expensive at age 28. The age cutoff was 25 until recently, so this change is a great deal for anyone who will be 26 or 27 at the start of their trip.
You aren’t guaranteed to save money by buying a Youth Eurail Pass, but chances are good that you WILL save money and you’ll definitely save a lot of hassle as well. Especially now that Eurail Passes come in a mobile form, it’s even that much more convenient to just hop aboard any train that is about to leave the station and not worry about buying or even having a ticket. Especially for young people, it can be really fun and exhilarating to literally just walk into a train station with your backpack and look at the departure board and then decide where to go at that moment.
If you are age 60 or over, a Eurail Pass could also be great value
Another fairly recent change is that anyone who is 60 years or older at the start of the use of a Eurail Pass now gets 10% off the normal adult fare. That new discount is going to make this a great value for many travelers who might have been on the fence about buying a full-price pass before.
>>>Check prices on Eurail Passes
If you are planning on traveling in 1st Class anyway, a Eurail Pass is probably worth it
Most 2nd Class trains provide similar comfort and legroom to Business Class airline seats, or at least close enough, so for most people it’s not worth the added expense for 1st Class. However, if you are rich or elderly or fear contact with strangers, a 1st Class Eurail Pass is probably worth it no matter what.
Not only do you get much more comfort and legroom in 1st Class, with only 3 seats across instead of 4, but there is another advantage to 1st Class on European trains. Since it’s mostly business travelers and wealthy people traveling in 1st Class, the carriages are almost always mostly empty except in the mornings and late afternoons between large cities. In 2nd Class the only available seats might be two seats in an 8-seat cabin with all the other seats taken up by a loud family or a group of rowdy friends. In 1st Class you are all but guaranteed a peaceful ride, and usually plenty of empty seats from which to choose.
A hidden Eurail Pass benefit: Making extra stops on travel days for free
A one-way ticket between Paris and Amsterdam in 2nd Class on the high-speed Thalys service takes 3 hours 19 minutes, and costs €47 if you buy way in advance up to €188 if you buy at the last minute. A Eurail Pass can be helpful on this route for almost anyone because you often have to book two months in advance to get a fare under €90 or so. Even better though is the fact that the train stops in Brussels and Antwerp along the way, and both of those are really interesting cities that are perfect for a stop of 2 to 4 hours.
Brussels in particular is one I recommend a short stop in because the small historic center around what they called the Grand Place is amazing and gorgeous, while the rest of the city is rather boring by European standards. With a Eurail Pass you can jump off the train in Brussels and explore the city center for a few hours (luggage storage is cheap and easy) and maybe have lunch, and then hop on a later train to complete your journey to Amsterdam. There are opportunities like this on many if not most trips between larger cities, and if you buy the point-to-point tickets you have to stay on the train you booked.
Another example is the high-speed train between Barcelona and Madrid, which takes about 2.5 to 3 hours in each direction. There are some interesting cities in between, but in this case you could take a morning train from Barcelona to Madrid and then check into your accommodation, and then hop on another train from Madrid to Toledo, which takes about 30 minutes and costs €14 each way. Toledo is a historic and fascinating town, but it’s also pretty small and you can explore the main sights in an afternoon. With a Flexi Eurail Pass where you buy a certain number of travel days, you can save more money by adding on these sorts of nearby stops on travel days.
If you'll be touring major cities within ONE country, a single-country pass might be perfect, and Second Class passes are available for all ages
Until 2019 you could buy a Eurail “Select” or “Regional” Pass, which would allow you to buy a cheaper pass that only covered between two and five specific countries. As of April 2024, those have been eliminated and also lowered the prices of the Global Passes by around 20%.
Single-country passes are still available and they MIGHT be good value for you, but it depends on which country and how much traveling you’ll be doing. If you plan on going all over a larger country such as Germany, France, or Spain, and especially if you like to make plans as you go, a Single-country pass for one of those might be your best deal. On the other hand, smaller countries (such as the Netherlands) or countries where train tickets are already fairly cheap (such as Italy) might be harder to get value out of. Long story short, for single-country passes you really need to check fares of the places you plan on going and see how they add up compared to the pass.
>>>Check prices for Single Country Passes
Eurostar (between London and Paris or Brussels or Amsterdam) tickets are now included for Eurail Pass holders for a €30 reservation fee
The European rail system is confusing at first, so it’s worth pointing out that the Eurostar trains between London and Paris or Brussels are a totally different system and the prices are more like air tickets. In other words, they start out cheap 6 months in advance and prices go up as the travel date approaches. Since you can now use your Eurail Pass within Great Britain, it’s now the best way to get around England and Scotland by train.
Our recent tests show that Eurostar fares one-way from London to Paris can be as low as €49 if you book about 3 months out, or as expensive as €214 for the same seat if you wait until the day of travel to buy. Round-trip/return tickets can be even cheaper if there is a promotion running.
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If you are on a really low budget, a Eurail Pass isn't a good idea
Here’s the thing. As we’ll discuss below, there are many potential benefits to Eurail Passes, and they will often save you money, but they do cost a lot and they only really save you money when traveling in the more expensive countries.
So let’s say you have a flight to Rome and then US$2,000 to last you a month after you arrive. Buying a Eurail Pass before you go would help you see a lot in that month, but you’d practically need to sleep in parks for your funds to last the whole time. You’d be better off moving slowly in the southern countries, or just in Italy itself, as a way to have the best holiday on your budget. You might also be tempted to use a Eurail Pass mostly on night trains so you can save the cost of a hotel or hostel, but those aren’t ideal for most of us.
The cheapest way to get around Europe by rail is to buy all train tickets online at least a couple months in advance. The fares are low, but they are non-refundable and non-changeable. See how far in advance you should buy train tickets to get those attractive fares.
If more than a little of your travel will be in eastern Europe, a Eurail Pass isn't a good idea
While eastern Europe (Poland, Czechia, Hungary, Ukraine, Croatia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Serbia etc), is where you’ll find almost all of the continent’s best travel bargains, its rail infrastructure continues to lag way behind. A few years ago many of the countries in that area were added to the Eurail Zone (except for Bulgaria for some reason), but even then the trains are still very slow. Worse still, in some areas the trains are much slower than buses, so you really have to research each leg individually.
The good news is that the trains operating in this region, and the buses that operate alongside and/or where trains aren’t running, are quite cheap. So if any significant part of your trip will be into this region, a rail pass doesn’t make sense.
Basic types of Eurail Passes
Long gone are the days of the simple options, replaced by specialized passes that are meant to appeal to different styles. It should be pretty easy to figure out which is best for you, and then keep going down the page to decide if it’s worth it at all.
Eurail Global Pass – 4,5, or 7 days within 1 month or 10 days within 2 months
Until recently the minimum number of travel days with 10 days within 2 months, but now you can buy as few as 4 days within 1 month for about €200 to €250 (for first class). This can actually be an interesting strategy if you are planning many shorter and cheaper trips (like within Italy or Eastern Europe), and also 4 or 5 longer trips such as Berlin to Amsterdam. This way you can buy only 4 or 5 travel days and only use them for your most expensive travel days, and just pay as you go or buy cheap advance tickets for your other journeys.
Eurail Global Pass – 15 to 90 consecutive days
This variation allows for unlimited travel on the system for between 15 and 90 total days. They are really only a good idea for people who are certain they are going to travel very often, with much of it being in the north of Europe. The problem with them is that if you really try to get your money’s worth, you will probably ruin your trip by spending too much time on trains in general. On the other hand, if you will be in Europe for 2 or 3 months and plan on traveling around a lot, you can get a LOT of use out of a longer pass. The 3-month pass is around €900 so it’s literally about €10 per day. Imagine going back and forth between Berlin and Munich or Barcelona and Madrid for €10 per day!
One Country Pass
Obviously these are for travel within one country only. Again, they can be great deals if you plan on extensively moving around one particular country.
Where to buy your Eurail Pass
Eurail Passes are cheapest and easiest to buy online, primarily from two main sources which offer all the same products at the exact same prices:
This is a reliable company based in the Netherlands but with fulfillment offices in the US and Ireland. Price of Travel is a partner with this company, and if you use the links of this site we earn a small commission to help keep this site online. Eurail.com is usually cheaper than RailEurope (discussed below) by the way.
They were founded in the 1930s and are based in New York, but owned primarily by the French and Swiss rail companies. They offer free shipping (2 to 3 business days) on all orders of US$399 or more, although now that a mobile version is available, this is meaningless. Price of Travel is a partner with this company, and if you use the links of this site we earn a small commission to help keep this site online.
Reservations on European trains for rail pass holders
For most of the fastest trains between major cities you’ll need to reserve a seat even with a rail pass. It can usually be done just before you leave and the cost is usually around €5. Here’s a full list of which European trains require reservations and which don’t.
Reservations are required on all intercity (longer distance) trains in or involving France, Spain, Switzerland, and Italy. For most trains in Germany, Austria, Netherlands, Belgium, and most of eastern Europe, you can usually find trains that don’t require seat reservations. Often, if you don’t leave until after 9:30am or so, you can ride on any train with no seat reservation, but you have to research each leg to be sure.
How to determine which trains require seat reservations, and also get schedules
You can click on the link just above this section for a list of countries and their seat-reservation policies, but in some cases it’s actually a bit more complicated than that. For example, you can generally ride without a seat reservation on fast ICE (Inter City Express) trains in Germany if you depart after 09:30 in the morning. They do this to free up seats for business travelers who pay full fare, and they don’t mind filling up seats with rail pass holders on trains leaving a bit later.
The best way to be sure about this is to download the RailEurope smartphone app (iPhone and Android). It’s a free app and you can download it and use it even if you buy from Eurail.com or don’t buy a rail pass at all. Amazingly enough, it has the entire European rail schedule built into it so you don’t even need to be online to use it. You just enter a departure city and destination city and it will show you all of the trains and connections going between the two. When you click on a specific train or combination of trains it will show you whether a seat reservation is needed for that particular departure. I’ve used this app literally hundreds or perhaps thousands of times to do my own research and help people find answers, and I’ve noticed that it’s accurate at least 99% of the time. Once in a blue moon you’ll enter two cities and it will show, say, a 20-hour journey when you are pretty sure it should be under 10 hours. Usually it’s actually correct, but I’ve seen a couple times where it missed something.
Night trains in Europe are making a comeback
I’ve been traveling around Europe since the 1980s and I’ve been updating this article since 2012 and one thing that was certain was the night trains (or sleeper trains) were going out of fashion. The main reasons were that high-speed trains grew in coverage so routes that used to take 10 or 12 hours could now be done in 4 or 5 hours, at least in countries like Germany, France, Spain, and Italy. As a result, almost everyone preferred to even depart at 6 PM if they could get to their destination city at 10 PM instead of the next morning.
Fast forward to 2024 and night trains are not only expanding service, but they are very trendy. Some of it is nostalgia for the older way of getting around, but most of it is for environmental purposes combined with European hatred for the “low cost airline” experience with RyanAir and Easy Jet etc.
Personally I’m still not a fan of night trains because I find it difficult to sleep on them since they often get decoupled at interim stations in the middle of the night and then coupled onto other trains coming from other places, and I can’t sleep through any of that. But still, they are worth looking into and they are fun to try at least once.
A bit of warning that they tend not to be cheap and even if you have a Eurail Pass you’ll almost certainly want to book a sleeping cabin with a bunk or couchette, and that will come at an extra fee. On the other hand, if you are the sort of person who can sleep sitting upright in a normal seat, then that won’t cost any extra on most overnight trains.
Factors to consider when thinking about any Eurail Pass
Assuming you know which Eurail Saver Pass option is the best one for your type of trip by now, we’ll go over the main factors that should help you decide whether it’s the best idea for you.
Eurail Passes are best for standard ‘medium length’ journeys
In almost all of Europe, the major cities tend to be between 4 and 8 hours apart by train, and these journeys are perfect for Eurail Passes. For example, from Vienna to Munich it takes about 5 hours on the train, and it’s scenic and relaxing. Flying between those cities would take about the same amount of time once you factor in airport transportation and security lines, and it’s far less pleasant.
However, if you are determined to travel between Rome and Paris, it’s about a 14-hour journey that will almost certainly be overnight. In this case, a cheap plane ticket is probably better, although taking shorter hops on the train is even better, so spend a day or two in Milan or Lyon on the way instead.
And of course, if you prefer to stop in various small towns between the big ones, then a Eurail Pass won’t pay off, except for the traditional kind for unlimited travel in a given period.
Eurail Passes are better value in northern Europe, France, and Spain, and poor value in Italy
Once you do a bit of research you’ll quickly learn that train tickets (and almost everything else) are much more expensive in Germany, Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, and Finland than they are in Greece, Italy, Portugal, and Spain. With this in mind, the regional passes can make sense if you are spending time in the south, but the Global Passes almost certainly won’t. Train tickets in Spain used to be fairly cheap, but in recent years they’ve added new high-speed trains between the major cities, and these are quite expensive.
Unlike most other countries, Italy really subsidizes its train tickets so they are quite reasonable even on travel day, and very cheap if you buy a month or more in advance. For example, you can go between Rome and Florence for around €49 if you buy on travel day, and as little as €19 if you buy well in advance. In most other countries, fares are double or triple that much for similar rides.
So consider your planned itinerary. If more than half of it is in the Mediterranean countries then look into a Regional Pass or just buy tickets as you go, because they tend to be pretty cheap. But if you are planning on spending at least half your time in Paris and places to the north of it, then a Eurail Pass is probably a money saver because those tickets are expensive.
Trains are almost always better than planes
Flying sucks, even in Europe
Until you’ve experienced the joy of traveling around Europe by train you might be tempted to “maximize” your time by flying low-cost airlines between each city. This would be a mistake. In order to get truly cheap airfares you have to purchase long in advance, buying non-refundable tickets. You might also have to commit to flights in the very early morning or in the late evening, because cheap tickets on convenient flights sell out quickly.
And again, most European airports are around an hour outside of the city. They are often on the main train lines, which helps, but still you have to deal with the madness of security and also try to get there at least two hours early. From one city center to any other city center it’s about 5 hours minimum, even if they are close, and those are pretty miserable hours.
Train travel is a positive experience
While it’s true that you do have to reserve a seat on many long-distance trains these days, you can usually do it just before it leaves, or the night before to be safe. And with many trains you can literally just hop on board as it’s pulling out of the station.
Not only are all the seats comfortable on trains, but you also have an interesting view most of the time. Better still, trains deposit you in the heart of every city, which is usually the neighborhood with the cheapest hotels and food. It’s a wonderful feeling to step off a relaxing train ride, buy a hot dog or sandwich at a local shop, and then be in your hotel room only about 10 minutes later.
Eurail Passes are better than train tickets alone
As someone who enjoys the process of crunching numbers and looking for value, I have to also mention that I’d buy a Eurail Pass even if it seemed like it would cost a bit more than the individual tickets. With a pass you get an extra element of freedom that is worth a lot more than you might expect until you’ve used one.
If you fly, you absolutely have to lock in your exact schedule weeks or months in advance, and if you buy train tickets individually you will be spending hours in queues and then waiting around. You can buy European train tickets in advance, though the convenience comes along with an extra fee. But with a Eurail Pass, on most routes you can just hop on any train you feel like.
Let’s say you are heading from Amsterdam to Hamburg tomorrow morning. The 09:00 train you planned for might seem a bit ambitious after a long night out, so you can instead opt for the 10:00 or 11:00 train. As long as you walk into Centraal Station 10 or so minutes before departure, you are on. If you are flying you can’t change your ticket, and if you are buying train tickets as you go you have to be in line at the international desk at the train station at least 30 minutes early, and even then you might miss it if they are busy.
Freedom and getting to feel like a big shot
Bill Gates doesn’t worry about the cost of plane tickets or train tickets. He just goes where he wants, when he wants. When you have a Eurail Pass, you get a taste of this yourself, and even if you don’t end up doing any new spontaneous legs within your trip, it’s a great feeling.
Let’s say you are staying at a hostel in Brussels, and two groups of new friends suggest that you go along with them to their next stops. One group is going to Bruges, which is a short and cheap journey, so you can join them by buying individual tickets (unless you have the unlimited pass, making it free). Then you restart your trip from Bruges, on to your next destination. The other group is headed to Berlin on a night train, which is long and expensive, but with a Eurail Pass you don’t even have to think about the cost. On you go, just like a rich person.
Buying a Eurail Pass is great for those who might run out of money
We all know people who keep meticulous track of every penny they spend, and who are always putting money away for a rainy day. And we all know people who can take a US$100 “entertainment fund” and burn through almost all of it in just a few hours. For the first type of person, a Eurail Pass can help you keep track of expenses, but it’s really the second type of person these are best for.
It’s sad to hear about people who have big plans to see their dream destinations, but they run out of money for transportation halfway into the trip, so they have to just stay put until they fly home. It happens. Locking in your major transportation costs before you leave home, and probably saving money in the process, is a wise move for anyone who isn’t as disciplined as they’d like with their money.
>>>Check prices on Eurail Passes
Bottom line: If you want to keep travel costs down, your choices will usually be a Eurail Pass or buying tickets at least a month or more early
In the last few years, almost every long-distance train ride in Europe has switched to a pricing system similar to low-cost airlines. In other words, tickets go on sale 2 to 6 months ahead of time at very low prices, and they keep getting more expensive as the train fills up and the date approaches. For most trips where a rail pass is possible, this is how things stack up:
Cheapest possible way: Buy advanced (non-refundable, non-changeable) train tickets at least 30 days in advance
Next cheapest way: Buy a Eurail Pass and make seat reservations as you go, usually only a day or less in advance.
Most expensive way: Buy train tickets as you go, or less than a week in advance.
Thinking about it this way should make the choice a bit easier. If you are the type who likes to plan each day and travel segment long before you even leave home, then buy tickets online for the best prices. This can be the best strategy for most shorter trips (10 days or less) because you simply don’t have enough time to change many things as you go anyway.
Buying a Eurail Pass won’t be quite as cheap, but you are buying a LOT of flexibility with the extra money. If you dream of making up your plans as you go, or even making up your plans just a few days in advance, this is almost always your best bet.
But if you wait too long, and just show up looking to buy train tickets as you go, they are going to cost a fortune. As recently as only a few years ago all seats would be the same price on many rail systems, so you could always just wing it. When each country computerized its rail systems so they can sell advanced tickets cheaper, they also had to keep track of seat reservations, so the whole pricing structure had changed to favor advanced ticket buyers and rail pass holders over those who’d prefer to just hop on any train as it is leaving the station.
Have a rail pass or itinerary question of your own?
It wasn’t planned but scores of people began asking me rail pass and itinerary questions at the bottom of this article and a few others. I’m happy to keep answering them and now I’m trying to organize them better as well so they are easier for other people to find.
If you have a question about specific types of European rail passes, please ask it in the comments below.
But if you have a question more about a European itinerary or other non-rail-pass questions, please click over to the European itineraries Q & A article and ask in the comments of that one.
Hi Roger,
Great site! My wife and I will be traveling Europe for the month of June and we were planning on getting a Eurail, but I’m not sure if we should and if so, where to purchase it. We are both over 26. We plan on flying into Athens (spending a few days in Greece), taking a ferry to Italy (spending about 6 days), Munich, Barcelona, Paris, Brussels, Amsterdam, London, Scotland, and ending in Ireland. We’ve been told to plan a little, but not too much so we can have a little more freedom to stay in certain places longer if we like.
I think I saw that eurail isn’t in UK, which we plan to spend about 5 days there. If we buy the the global pass, should we buy the 21 continuous days since UK and Ireland are later in our month trip? Should we look into a train pass to get us through those places?
Thanks for your help!
Kyle,
Thanks. With the itinerary you are proposing, I’d say that a rail pass wouldn’t be good value. There’s pretty much no train service in Greece these days, and England, Scotland, and Wales are in their own system which would require a different pass. Ireland is part of the Eurail zone, but it’s a pretty small country so most passes aren’t good value for a visit.
In Italy, the individual tickets are fairly cheap because most cities are only 2 or 3 hours apart. And they are even cheaper if you buy them online a week or two in advance from the official Italian rail site. But even if you want to keep your flexibility, those tickets will usually be under €30 or so even if you buy them on the day. I agree with those who’ve told you to keep parts of your trip flexible so you can stay longer in places you like and move more quickly through other places.
Of the places you mention, you could go Rome to Florence to Venice to Munich to Paris to Brussels to Amsterdam, and then fly to London, or take the Eurostar to London. Or you could fly to Ireland and then do Britain from a ferry ride or another cheap flight.
One important thing to remember is that trains in England, Scotland, and Wales are very expensive when you buy them on the day, but they can be amazingly cheap if you buy them online in advance. As in, London to Edinburgh could be £10 if you buy two or three weeks ahead, or £100 if you buy just before it leaves. The nice thing is that you can buy them online and pick them up for free at machines at the stations. Good luck with everything. -Roger
Roger,
I am a US citizen and arrived in Europe (Germany) for a 2 month vacation on 11/20. I want to buy a Eurail Pass but I want to pick up in person here. Where can I do that?
Thanks, John
John,
You can actually buy a few types of rail passes at train stations in Europe, but for the full selection of Eurail Passes you need to buy them online and have them shipped. They do ship to Europe now, so you can have it sent to your hotel or some other address where you know you’ll be able to pick it up. -Roger
Roger thank you for your quick reply.
We haven’t a confirmed itinerary as yet but would like to go to Prague,Salzburg,? Trieste, Venice, Verona, Florence, ? Cinque Terre, perhaps Lake Como, Interlaken or Lucerne and end in Paris. One idea was to perhaps fly to Prague from London instead of crossing on ferry to Calais.
What would you suggest? Are we trying to do too much and should we train from Calais or start in Prague?
Also should we get a eurail pass?
thank you so much for your great site and help.
Hey Roger,
Great site! Thanks for all the info and insight into traveling Europe. I just arrived into Stuttgart, Germany for a 3 month rotation at an Army base medical clinic. I just found out that I will have significantly more time off then I thought I would, which allows for some travel!
I would love to travel every weekend if possible and there are some longer breaks in there. Starting next week, I was thinking of training it to Brugge on either Wed night or take an early train to get there by 12 on Thursday and spend rest of the day strolling around. The next morning I would meet three friends in Brussels for Friday and the weekend. Sunday we one friend and myself would head back to Stuttgart. The following weekend we would leave Stuttgart at 1 and head to Prague for the weekend. The next Stuttgart – Paris. Some of the weekends would be to surrounding German cities (Berlin, Strasberg and Munich).
My pregnant wife will then fly in Dec. 11, (I’m so excited) and stay until Jan. 2. I will have the Dec. 25- Jan 2 off and we were hoping to go down to Venice for a time, cinque terre and salerno (where friends live).
After she leaves I will then have the remaining weekends to travel wherever, I would love some of your recs for shorter trips from stuttgart, until I leave Feb 15.
So my questions are, eurorail pass?, saver passes for when my wife’s here and we are doing three weekends and the 8 day stretch? What you recommend for myself and the 5 extra weekends that I will have. I work a half day on Friday so it can hopefully put me somewhere for the up to a day and a half in the place.
Thanks for the tailored help and look forward to your response. Hope you have a great weekend.
Steve
Steve,
You are in an enviable position because Stuttgart is only a few hours or so by train to so many wonderful places. First off, here’s my fairly recent post about where to go within Germany.
It covers mainly the highlights, and I’m sure once you start talking to locals or coworkers in Stuttgart you’ll get more detailed suggestions. You are quite close to Rothenburg ob der Tauber, which is a big favorite of nearly everyone who visits. Your wife would probably enjoy it as well. The key is to stay at least overnight (even if you could do it more cheaply as a day trip) because it’s pretty crowded with bus tour groups during the day, and charmingly empty at night.
Antwerp is also worth a look in Belgium, but since you are already doing Brugge/Bruges and Brussels it might be a second-tier stop. You’ve got the Rhine Valley and Strasbourg close by, as you certainly know. Berlin is not too close but you don’t want to miss it.
Going south you’ll want to hit Salzburg, which would be a really great weekend with your wife or even solo. Innsbruck isn’t nearly as interesting, by the way. In Switzerland you might check out Lucerne and/or Interlaken, both of which have plenty to do in the winter.
As for train tickets, hopefully you are already aware of the famous Germany weekend deal, which allows up to 5 people to travel on Saturday or Sunday for only €42 total. It won’t help for outbound trains on Fridays, but obviously it would apply to return trains on Sundays. Partly for that reason, I don’t think a rail pass would be good value for your situation. They really only pay off for people who are covering a lot of ground in a pretty concentrated time.
For an Italy trip it will be faster and probably much cheaper to fly there from Stuttgart Airport on Air Berlin, Germanwings, or any other low cost carrier. You can fly to any Italian city that you want to see, and then take the local trains around before flying back to Stuttgart from a different Italian city. Those Italian train tickets are reasonably priced, especially if you buy them at least a few days in advance from the official Italy rail website.
I hope this helps, and feel free to ask follow up questions. Again, you should be able to get some solid advice from people nearby if you ask around. -Roger
hello Roger,
we are 3 middle aged ladies planning a trip May/June 2014. Arriving London onto Dover to stay with friends then crossing to Calais.
We have 19 days where we would like to travel thru Switzerland, Austria and northern Italy finishing in Paris where we will have 4 days before flying home to NZ, making total of 23 days. Would a eurail pass be the way to go or should we just buy tickets as we go.
Thank you.
Beth,
The answer completely depends on how many train journeys you plan on taking within that time, as well as how far each of them will have you travel. For example, if you were going Paris to Lucerne to Vienna to Milan and then back to Paris, then a rail pass won’t really save you time or money. But if you are doing at least 3 or 4 extra stops mixed in, then a rail pass might be your best bet.
Feel free to post a more detailed plan of what you have in mind, and I can be more specific. -Roger
Hello, Roger!
My boyfriend and I are goingbto Austria and decided to go from vienna to zell am see for skiing , by train. We have never traveled by train before so we hope it’s extra fun for us but we are struggling with the type of ticket to buy.
The single tickets in OBB have several different prices, including a group ticket that’s valid for 2 people for only 32euros but valid in selected trains and times, it sound preety good but worrying as we don’t have much time -it’s only a week trip. A regular first class ricket. Would be about 90euros per person per journey.
Then the eurail country pass would cost 350euro for 2 in first class (about 100euro more than second class) and we can take any train and its valid for 3 days.
Firstly, we would only use it for going and coming from/to vienna and zell am see but with the pass we might also be able to pass by salzburg for a day trip from zell am see.
The question is, is it worth to get an eurail pass even if we just go and come from vienna and zell am see, not using the third day of the pass? I mean for the hassle free trips. Or is buying ticket at the time you arrive at the train station easy enough – but considering first class the price is not that different from eurail… Thanks.
Alessandra,
If I were you I think I’d try the discounted tickets. It looks like Vienna to Zell am See takes between 4 and 5 hours on the fastest trains. The rule says that the deal is only valid after 9am on weekdays and only on regional trains. I’ve done this in Germany and the trains can be very slow since they stop at every station, but Austria is a small country and if the difference is only an hour or two I’d say the discount is worth it. The trains are nice and the scenery is great, so even if it’s a bit slow it should be enjoyable.
I don’t really see how €350 for a rail pass could be worth it, although I highly recommend a trip to Salzburg if you can make it because it’s a wonderful little city. You could also do a discounted ticket to Salzburg. As long as you don’t have to change trains more than once along the way, it should be pretty much hassle free. -Roger
hi roger
awesome post
i have a question about the eurail select pass. can it be any countries as long as the one you are traveling to is bordering the country you are currently in.
im thinking of the 5 country select youth pass and just getting tickets for travel within each country. my plan is to go belgium, amsterdam, germany (about 6 citys here), switzerland, austria, prague. does this sound sensible to you. or should i get a german pass with the add on for the ibter country parts.
thanks kerri
Kerri,
Yes, a Eurail Select Pass can include 3 to 5 countries as long as they border each other (but can’t include France). You’ve got 6 different countries on your list so in order to qualify for a Select Pass you’d have to drop one. It’s probably cheaper to buy one that covers most of your longer journeys within Germany because the more legs you buy, the cheaper each of them is. We’d need to look at your specific itinerary to know which way would be the cheapest.
When it comes to dropping a 6th country, it’s probably best to drop the Czech Republic and pay for the trip to Prague as you go because it’s relatively cheap (and it looks like your last stop). Again, if you include more specific details I’ll be happy to help you sort out the best option. -Roger
hi roger, i thought belgium and holand came under benelux therefore just one country, but obviously i didnt look properly
probably looking at going amsterdam to hamburg to berlin to dusseldorf to franfurt to munich the to salzburg
kerri
Hello Roger, myself and three friends have the next itinerary, for dates betwwen Dec 14th and Jan 20th, we would like to know if it is a good idea to have a pass, and if we need extra reservations
14/12/2013 Munich
17/12/2013 Dortmund
21/12/2013 Amsterdam
24/12/2013 Rotterdam
27/12/2013 Bruselas
30/12/2013 Paris
01/01/2014 Lausane
03/01/2014 Leysin
04/01/2014 Milan
07/01/2014 Rome
10/01/2014 Venice
12/01/2014 Wien
14/01/2014 Prague
17/01/2014 Berlin
Andres,
This looks like a really great trip, and you’ll be covering quite a bit of ground. I definitely think a Eurail Pass will work well for this, specifically the 10 Days out of 2 months Global Pass, and those are 20% off right now. So far it seems that you have 13 journeys planned, but a few of them are quite short and/or cheap, so it would be a shame to use a full travel day on them. Like Amsterdam to Rotterdam (are you sure you want to spend 3 days in Rotterdam?) only takes 75 minutes and only costs €9.50 per person (in 2nd class) if you buy it in advance. Lausanne to Leysin is also obviously a short one, and Milan to Rome is relatively cheap if you buy on your own in advance (from the Italian national rail site).
You don’t mention the ages, so it’s worth pointing out that if everyone is under 26 then you can get a 2nd Class rail pass, but if not then you need to get the 1st Class version. However, with everyone traveling together, you can save 15% extra on (in addition to the 20%) the first class pass. Really, your itinerary is pretty much perfect for the Global Eurail Pass with 10 days out of 2 months, so the discounts should make it even nicer.
You will need seat reservations on many of these trains if you buy a pass, and those average around €5 each. The only tricky one here is Brussels to Paris, which is only done by the Thalys high speed train, and seat reservations on those are around €29 in second class and €42 in first class.
You didn’t ask so maybe I should not question your itinerary, but you do have some unusual choices on there. Not many foreign visitors stop in Dortmund at all, so 4 nights there seems really unusual. Rotterdam is another one that people are usually happy to skip or maybe spend one night there, and even Brussels isn’t really a great tourist city for more than a day or so. And Florence is a much more common stop than Milan (which can be very expensive if you get unlucky with hotels). If you have solid reasons for each day on this itinerary then fantastic. I just wanted to point out a few of the unconventional stops you have in case you aren’t 100% sold on each of them yet.
Please let me know if you have any other questions.
Hello Roger
Me and my husband are traveling Europe for 5 weeks
Our itinery
France
Paris- Loire valley-
Loire valley to Lyon / nice
Switzerland
Nice to Lugano
Lugano to interlaken
Interlaken – luzerene
Italy
I am confused with with train trip from luzerene to Milan – just a day visit
Milan to Venice
Venice to Florence
Florence to Rome
Croatia
Rome to split
Either ferry from split to Dubrovnik
Greece
Dubrovnik to Athens
Athens – Greek islands 2 of them
We might do car hire in France
Which pass would you recommend
Thanks heaps
Nat,
Renting a car for just the Loire Valley in France might be good, but I hope it’s only for that part because you’ll have parking problems in any of the cities.
There’s really only one rail pass that might make sense for you, that that’s the 10 Days in 2 Months Global Pass (with the Saver option of having 2 going together). It looks like you’ll be doing at least 10 train journeys, and even if you add a few more you can just use the rail pass on the 10 most expensive journeys and pay as you go for the shorter or cheaper ones. Your other option would be to pay as you go, which would probably cost about the same.
With this itinerary you are doing a lot of trips that are around 2 to 3 hours each, and in Italy those tend to be pretty cheap, while in France and Switzerland they are quite expensive when purchased as you go. Either way gives you flexibility, though with a Eurail Pass you’ll have the added flexibility of being able to do an extra long journey along the way, without having to worry about the price because it’s already paid for.
And it seems like you already realize this, but just to be sure, after you get to Split you can’t go any further south on the train, so from there you’ll take buses and then ferries (or planes) to the islands. Those buses in Croatia, Serbia, Montenegro, and Greece are pretty comfortable and quite cheap, but of course they aren’t included in the rail passes. Feel free to ask follow up questions if you have any. -Roger
Hi Roger,
What a great website you have!
Me and my wife will be flying into Amsterdam in August 2014 and after visiting friends and family we from there on plan to go to Barcelona ( thinking about it now I wonder if flying down there would be better) and then start our Mediterranean coast trip so travel through the south of France, Italy ,Croatia , Greece and some of the islands and perhaps ,if time is on our side, see a bit of Turkey as well and on our way back visit Prague, from where we would go to London to visit our daughter. We plan to do this within 2 months and therefore are considering the 2 months continuous global pass , do you think that is the best option for our itinerary? Many thanks!
Pete.
Pete,
Thank you. From Amsterdam to Barcelona you should definitely fly. You should be able to get that ticket for €100 or even less if you book well in advance, or spend an entire day on a train.
As for a Eurail Pass, I don’t think it would be good value for you for the itinerary you mentioned. Barcelona to Croatia isn’t really that far by train, and you should make many stops along the way. And once you get to Croatia you pretty much run out of track (in Split), so to go do Dubrovnik and then into Greece you’d go by buses anyway. A France and Italy regional pass could be a good deal if you are going to make many stops in those two countries. Those are quite a bit cheaper than the Global Pass, so that’s what I’d look for. -Roger
Thanks for your reply Roger, it has made us look at the possibilities and options from a different angle and the regional passes especially in Italy may very well be the way to go. We still have plenty of time to work things out.
Thanks again.