Eurail Passes are famous as a way to save money while exploring Europe, but they are also confusing and often misunderstood. They are still an amazing money-saving tool for certain types of travelers, and not a wise idea for most others. Before Europe introduced dynamic rail pricing (like airfares, where the price varies depending on when you buy it), a Eurail Pass was an easy way to save money since all tickets had fixed prices that were generally fairly expensive. These days most travelers can save far more money just by buying their train tickets at least a few weeks in advance.
That said, Eurail Passes are still great for longer trips and especially for people who like to make plans as they go. Dynamic rail pricing made advanced tickets much cheaper, but it also made last-minute tickets MUCH more expensive. Below we will discuss Eurail Passes and whether they are a good idea for your trip or not.
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Note: This article was written in 2012 and has been continuously updated since then, so all information is current as of April, 2024.
Eurail 2024 changes: New countries and a mobile version
This actually changed in 2019 and 2020, but it’s still a big deal and not many people were shopping for Eurail passes in the last couple of years. Eurail Passes now include England, Scotland, Wales, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and Macedonia.
Aside from that it’s just the normal fact that they have updated the timetables as of December 2023 and have a few promotions going on, but those usually don’t happen over the busy summer season.
Eurail passes are now available in a mobile version
Until very recently, Eurail Passes were only available in paper form and they were quite confusing at first. You’d get a pass with a series of empty boxes on it and you’d need to enter your trip before you’d use your pass each day and then have the first conductor verify it. If you lost your ticket (and this was not uncommon), it was a whole ordeal to attempt to get a replacement.
Again in 2024 Eurail offers a fully mobile version that is delivered instantly to your mobile device with no delivery fee. And if you somehow lose your phone, you can resume using your Pass on your replacement with no extra headache. This is MUCH more convenient in every way and as long as you can keep track of your phone you’ll always have your train pass handy.
If your trip will be 2 weeks or less, a Eurail Pass probably won't be worth it
About half of the questions I get in the lengthy comment thread of this article are from people planning a trip of 3 or 4 stops in two weeks or less. The good news for those travelers is that they can get fairly cheap train tickets in advance online if they have their dates planned, and a Eurail Pass won’t help at all.
Eurail Passes are ideal for travelers on longer trips, and especially those who don’t want to plan all of their destinations and dates far in advance. If you have your itinerary pretty much planned out and you don’t require much flexibility, you’ll be far better off just locking in your dates and buying your train tickets as early as you can. Again, they can be surprisingly cheap if you buy 2 to 4 months out.
If you are age 27 or younger, a Eurail Pass is probably worth it
Those 28 years old or over must buy the 1st Class version of any Eurail Pass, which is 50% more expensive, and the added comfort isn’t a big deal to most people. But travelers age 12 to 27 can buy the 2nd Class versions at the lowest prices, and the seats are comfortable enough for virtually everyone.
With this in mind, if you are lucky enough to still be 27 or younger, you should seriously think about getting a Eurail Global Pass Youth, partly because the sense of freedom instantly gets more expensive at age 28. The age cutoff was 25 until recently, so this change is a great deal for anyone who will be 26 or 27 at the start of their trip.
You aren’t guaranteed to save money by buying a Youth Eurail Pass, but chances are good that you WILL save money and you’ll definitely save a lot of hassle as well. Especially now that Eurail Passes come in a mobile form, it’s even that much more convenient to just hop aboard any train that is about to leave the station and not worry about buying or even having a ticket. Especially for young people, it can be really fun and exhilarating to literally just walk into a train station with your backpack and look at the departure board and then decide where to go at that moment.
If you are age 60 or over, a Eurail Pass could also be great value
Another fairly recent change is that anyone who is 60 years or older at the start of the use of a Eurail Pass now gets 10% off the normal adult fare. That new discount is going to make this a great value for many travelers who might have been on the fence about buying a full-price pass before.
>>>Check prices on Eurail Passes
If you are planning on traveling in 1st Class anyway, a Eurail Pass is probably worth it
Most 2nd Class trains provide similar comfort and legroom to Business Class airline seats, or at least close enough, so for most people it’s not worth the added expense for 1st Class. However, if you are rich or elderly or fear contact with strangers, a 1st Class Eurail Pass is probably worth it no matter what.
Not only do you get much more comfort and legroom in 1st Class, with only 3 seats across instead of 4, but there is another advantage to 1st Class on European trains. Since it’s mostly business travelers and wealthy people traveling in 1st Class, the carriages are almost always mostly empty except in the mornings and late afternoons between large cities. In 2nd Class the only available seats might be two seats in an 8-seat cabin with all the other seats taken up by a loud family or a group of rowdy friends. In 1st Class you are all but guaranteed a peaceful ride, and usually plenty of empty seats from which to choose.
A hidden Eurail Pass benefit: Making extra stops on travel days for free
A one-way ticket between Paris and Amsterdam in 2nd Class on the high-speed Thalys service takes 3 hours 19 minutes, and costs €47 if you buy way in advance up to €188 if you buy at the last minute. A Eurail Pass can be helpful on this route for almost anyone because you often have to book two months in advance to get a fare under €90 or so. Even better though is the fact that the train stops in Brussels and Antwerp along the way, and both of those are really interesting cities that are perfect for a stop of 2 to 4 hours.
Brussels in particular is one I recommend a short stop in because the small historic center around what they called the Grand Place is amazing and gorgeous, while the rest of the city is rather boring by European standards. With a Eurail Pass you can jump off the train in Brussels and explore the city center for a few hours (luggage storage is cheap and easy) and maybe have lunch, and then hop on a later train to complete your journey to Amsterdam. There are opportunities like this on many if not most trips between larger cities, and if you buy the point-to-point tickets you have to stay on the train you booked.
Another example is the high-speed train between Barcelona and Madrid, which takes about 2.5 to 3 hours in each direction. There are some interesting cities in between, but in this case you could take a morning train from Barcelona to Madrid and then check into your accommodation, and then hop on another train from Madrid to Toledo, which takes about 30 minutes and costs €14 each way. Toledo is a historic and fascinating town, but it’s also pretty small and you can explore the main sights in an afternoon. With a Flexi Eurail Pass where you buy a certain number of travel days, you can save more money by adding on these sorts of nearby stops on travel days.
If you'll be touring major cities within ONE country, a single-country pass might be perfect, and Second Class passes are available for all ages
Until 2019 you could buy a Eurail “Select” or “Regional” Pass, which would allow you to buy a cheaper pass that only covered between two and five specific countries. As of April 2024, those have been eliminated and also lowered the prices of the Global Passes by around 20%.
Single-country passes are still available and they MIGHT be good value for you, but it depends on which country and how much traveling you’ll be doing. If you plan on going all over a larger country such as Germany, France, or Spain, and especially if you like to make plans as you go, a Single-country pass for one of those might be your best deal. On the other hand, smaller countries (such as the Netherlands) or countries where train tickets are already fairly cheap (such as Italy) might be harder to get value out of. Long story short, for single-country passes you really need to check fares of the places you plan on going and see how they add up compared to the pass.
>>>Check prices for Single Country Passes
Eurostar (between London and Paris or Brussels or Amsterdam) tickets are now included for Eurail Pass holders for a €30 reservation fee
The European rail system is confusing at first, so it’s worth pointing out that the Eurostar trains between London and Paris or Brussels are a totally different system and the prices are more like air tickets. In other words, they start out cheap 6 months in advance and prices go up as the travel date approaches. Since you can now use your Eurail Pass within Great Britain, it’s now the best way to get around England and Scotland by train.
Our recent tests show that Eurostar fares one-way from London to Paris can be as low as €49 if you book about 3 months out, or as expensive as €214 for the same seat if you wait until the day of travel to buy. Round-trip/return tickets can be even cheaper if there is a promotion running.
>>>Check Eurostar prices
If you are on a really low budget, a Eurail Pass isn't a good idea
Here’s the thing. As we’ll discuss below, there are many potential benefits to Eurail Passes, and they will often save you money, but they do cost a lot and they only really save you money when traveling in the more expensive countries.
So let’s say you have a flight to Rome and then US$2,000 to last you a month after you arrive. Buying a Eurail Pass before you go would help you see a lot in that month, but you’d practically need to sleep in parks for your funds to last the whole time. You’d be better off moving slowly in the southern countries, or just in Italy itself, as a way to have the best holiday on your budget. You might also be tempted to use a Eurail Pass mostly on night trains so you can save the cost of a hotel or hostel, but those aren’t ideal for most of us.
The cheapest way to get around Europe by rail is to buy all train tickets online at least a couple months in advance. The fares are low, but they are non-refundable and non-changeable. See how far in advance you should buy train tickets to get those attractive fares.
If more than a little of your travel will be in eastern Europe, a Eurail Pass isn't a good idea
While eastern Europe (Poland, Czechia, Hungary, Ukraine, Croatia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Serbia etc), is where you’ll find almost all of the continent’s best travel bargains, its rail infrastructure continues to lag way behind. A few years ago many of the countries in that area were added to the Eurail Zone (except for Bulgaria for some reason), but even then the trains are still very slow. Worse still, in some areas the trains are much slower than buses, so you really have to research each leg individually.
The good news is that the trains operating in this region, and the buses that operate alongside and/or where trains aren’t running, are quite cheap. So if any significant part of your trip will be into this region, a rail pass doesn’t make sense.
Basic types of Eurail Passes
Long gone are the days of the simple options, replaced by specialized passes that are meant to appeal to different styles. It should be pretty easy to figure out which is best for you, and then keep going down the page to decide if it’s worth it at all.
Eurail Global Pass – 4,5, or 7 days within 1 month or 10 days within 2 months
Until recently the minimum number of travel days with 10 days within 2 months, but now you can buy as few as 4 days within 1 month for about €200 to €250 (for first class). This can actually be an interesting strategy if you are planning many shorter and cheaper trips (like within Italy or Eastern Europe), and also 4 or 5 longer trips such as Berlin to Amsterdam. This way you can buy only 4 or 5 travel days and only use them for your most expensive travel days, and just pay as you go or buy cheap advance tickets for your other journeys.
Eurail Global Pass – 15 to 90 consecutive days
This variation allows for unlimited travel on the system for between 15 and 90 total days. They are really only a good idea for people who are certain they are going to travel very often, with much of it being in the north of Europe. The problem with them is that if you really try to get your money’s worth, you will probably ruin your trip by spending too much time on trains in general. On the other hand, if you will be in Europe for 2 or 3 months and plan on traveling around a lot, you can get a LOT of use out of a longer pass. The 3-month pass is around €900 so it’s literally about €10 per day. Imagine going back and forth between Berlin and Munich or Barcelona and Madrid for €10 per day!
One Country Pass
Obviously these are for travel within one country only. Again, they can be great deals if you plan on extensively moving around one particular country.
Where to buy your Eurail Pass
Eurail Passes are cheapest and easiest to buy online, primarily from two main sources which offer all the same products at the exact same prices:
This is a reliable company based in the Netherlands but with fulfillment offices in the US and Ireland. Price of Travel is a partner with this company, and if you use the links of this site we earn a small commission to help keep this site online. Eurail.com is usually cheaper than RailEurope (discussed below) by the way.
They were founded in the 1930s and are based in New York, but owned primarily by the French and Swiss rail companies. They offer free shipping (2 to 3 business days) on all orders of US$399 or more, although now that a mobile version is available, this is meaningless. Price of Travel is a partner with this company, and if you use the links of this site we earn a small commission to help keep this site online.
Reservations on European trains for rail pass holders
For most of the fastest trains between major cities you’ll need to reserve a seat even with a rail pass. It can usually be done just before you leave and the cost is usually around €5. Here’s a full list of which European trains require reservations and which don’t.
Reservations are required on all intercity (longer distance) trains in or involving France, Spain, Switzerland, and Italy. For most trains in Germany, Austria, Netherlands, Belgium, and most of eastern Europe, you can usually find trains that don’t require seat reservations. Often, if you don’t leave until after 9:30am or so, you can ride on any train with no seat reservation, but you have to research each leg to be sure.
How to determine which trains require seat reservations, and also get schedules
You can click on the link just above this section for a list of countries and their seat-reservation policies, but in some cases it’s actually a bit more complicated than that. For example, you can generally ride without a seat reservation on fast ICE (Inter City Express) trains in Germany if you depart after 09:30 in the morning. They do this to free up seats for business travelers who pay full fare, and they don’t mind filling up seats with rail pass holders on trains leaving a bit later.
The best way to be sure about this is to download the RailEurope smartphone app (iPhone and Android). It’s a free app and you can download it and use it even if you buy from Eurail.com or don’t buy a rail pass at all. Amazingly enough, it has the entire European rail schedule built into it so you don’t even need to be online to use it. You just enter a departure city and destination city and it will show you all of the trains and connections going between the two. When you click on a specific train or combination of trains it will show you whether a seat reservation is needed for that particular departure. I’ve used this app literally hundreds or perhaps thousands of times to do my own research and help people find answers, and I’ve noticed that it’s accurate at least 99% of the time. Once in a blue moon you’ll enter two cities and it will show, say, a 20-hour journey when you are pretty sure it should be under 10 hours. Usually it’s actually correct, but I’ve seen a couple times where it missed something.
Night trains in Europe are making a comeback
I’ve been traveling around Europe since the 1980s and I’ve been updating this article since 2012 and one thing that was certain was the night trains (or sleeper trains) were going out of fashion. The main reasons were that high-speed trains grew in coverage so routes that used to take 10 or 12 hours could now be done in 4 or 5 hours, at least in countries like Germany, France, Spain, and Italy. As a result, almost everyone preferred to even depart at 6 PM if they could get to their destination city at 10 PM instead of the next morning.
Fast forward to 2024 and night trains are not only expanding service, but they are very trendy. Some of it is nostalgia for the older way of getting around, but most of it is for environmental purposes combined with European hatred for the “low cost airline” experience with RyanAir and Easy Jet etc.
Personally I’m still not a fan of night trains because I find it difficult to sleep on them since they often get decoupled at interim stations in the middle of the night and then coupled onto other trains coming from other places, and I can’t sleep through any of that. But still, they are worth looking into and they are fun to try at least once.
A bit of warning that they tend not to be cheap and even if you have a Eurail Pass you’ll almost certainly want to book a sleeping cabin with a bunk or couchette, and that will come at an extra fee. On the other hand, if you are the sort of person who can sleep sitting upright in a normal seat, then that won’t cost any extra on most overnight trains.
Factors to consider when thinking about any Eurail Pass
Assuming you know which Eurail Saver Pass option is the best one for your type of trip by now, we’ll go over the main factors that should help you decide whether it’s the best idea for you.
Eurail Passes are best for standard ‘medium length’ journeys
In almost all of Europe, the major cities tend to be between 4 and 8 hours apart by train, and these journeys are perfect for Eurail Passes. For example, from Vienna to Munich it takes about 5 hours on the train, and it’s scenic and relaxing. Flying between those cities would take about the same amount of time once you factor in airport transportation and security lines, and it’s far less pleasant.
However, if you are determined to travel between Rome and Paris, it’s about a 14-hour journey that will almost certainly be overnight. In this case, a cheap plane ticket is probably better, although taking shorter hops on the train is even better, so spend a day or two in Milan or Lyon on the way instead.
And of course, if you prefer to stop in various small towns between the big ones, then a Eurail Pass won’t pay off, except for the traditional kind for unlimited travel in a given period.
Eurail Passes are better value in northern Europe, France, and Spain, and poor value in Italy
Once you do a bit of research you’ll quickly learn that train tickets (and almost everything else) are much more expensive in Germany, Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, and Finland than they are in Greece, Italy, Portugal, and Spain. With this in mind, the regional passes can make sense if you are spending time in the south, but the Global Passes almost certainly won’t. Train tickets in Spain used to be fairly cheap, but in recent years they’ve added new high-speed trains between the major cities, and these are quite expensive.
Unlike most other countries, Italy really subsidizes its train tickets so they are quite reasonable even on travel day, and very cheap if you buy a month or more in advance. For example, you can go between Rome and Florence for around €49 if you buy on travel day, and as little as €19 if you buy well in advance. In most other countries, fares are double or triple that much for similar rides.
So consider your planned itinerary. If more than half of it is in the Mediterranean countries then look into a Regional Pass or just buy tickets as you go, because they tend to be pretty cheap. But if you are planning on spending at least half your time in Paris and places to the north of it, then a Eurail Pass is probably a money saver because those tickets are expensive.
Trains are almost always better than planes
Flying sucks, even in Europe
Until you’ve experienced the joy of traveling around Europe by train you might be tempted to “maximize” your time by flying low-cost airlines between each city. This would be a mistake. In order to get truly cheap airfares you have to purchase long in advance, buying non-refundable tickets. You might also have to commit to flights in the very early morning or in the late evening, because cheap tickets on convenient flights sell out quickly.
And again, most European airports are around an hour outside of the city. They are often on the main train lines, which helps, but still you have to deal with the madness of security and also try to get there at least two hours early. From one city center to any other city center it’s about 5 hours minimum, even if they are close, and those are pretty miserable hours.
Train travel is a positive experience
While it’s true that you do have to reserve a seat on many long-distance trains these days, you can usually do it just before it leaves, or the night before to be safe. And with many trains you can literally just hop on board as it’s pulling out of the station.
Not only are all the seats comfortable on trains, but you also have an interesting view most of the time. Better still, trains deposit you in the heart of every city, which is usually the neighborhood with the cheapest hotels and food. It’s a wonderful feeling to step off a relaxing train ride, buy a hot dog or sandwich at a local shop, and then be in your hotel room only about 10 minutes later.
Eurail Passes are better than train tickets alone
As someone who enjoys the process of crunching numbers and looking for value, I have to also mention that I’d buy a Eurail Pass even if it seemed like it would cost a bit more than the individual tickets. With a pass you get an extra element of freedom that is worth a lot more than you might expect until you’ve used one.
If you fly, you absolutely have to lock in your exact schedule weeks or months in advance, and if you buy train tickets individually you will be spending hours in queues and then waiting around. You can buy European train tickets in advance, though the convenience comes along with an extra fee. But with a Eurail Pass, on most routes you can just hop on any train you feel like.
Let’s say you are heading from Amsterdam to Hamburg tomorrow morning. The 09:00 train you planned for might seem a bit ambitious after a long night out, so you can instead opt for the 10:00 or 11:00 train. As long as you walk into Centraal Station 10 or so minutes before departure, you are on. If you are flying you can’t change your ticket, and if you are buying train tickets as you go you have to be in line at the international desk at the train station at least 30 minutes early, and even then you might miss it if they are busy.
Freedom and getting to feel like a big shot
Bill Gates doesn’t worry about the cost of plane tickets or train tickets. He just goes where he wants, when he wants. When you have a Eurail Pass, you get a taste of this yourself, and even if you don’t end up doing any new spontaneous legs within your trip, it’s a great feeling.
Let’s say you are staying at a hostel in Brussels, and two groups of new friends suggest that you go along with them to their next stops. One group is going to Bruges, which is a short and cheap journey, so you can join them by buying individual tickets (unless you have the unlimited pass, making it free). Then you restart your trip from Bruges, on to your next destination. The other group is headed to Berlin on a night train, which is long and expensive, but with a Eurail Pass you don’t even have to think about the cost. On you go, just like a rich person.
Buying a Eurail Pass is great for those who might run out of money
We all know people who keep meticulous track of every penny they spend, and who are always putting money away for a rainy day. And we all know people who can take a US$100 “entertainment fund” and burn through almost all of it in just a few hours. For the first type of person, a Eurail Pass can help you keep track of expenses, but it’s really the second type of person these are best for.
It’s sad to hear about people who have big plans to see their dream destinations, but they run out of money for transportation halfway into the trip, so they have to just stay put until they fly home. It happens. Locking in your major transportation costs before you leave home, and probably saving money in the process, is a wise move for anyone who isn’t as disciplined as they’d like with their money.
>>>Check prices on Eurail Passes
Bottom line: If you want to keep travel costs down, your choices will usually be a Eurail Pass or buying tickets at least a month or more early
In the last few years, almost every long-distance train ride in Europe has switched to a pricing system similar to low-cost airlines. In other words, tickets go on sale 2 to 6 months ahead of time at very low prices, and they keep getting more expensive as the train fills up and the date approaches. For most trips where a rail pass is possible, this is how things stack up:
Cheapest possible way: Buy advanced (non-refundable, non-changeable) train tickets at least 30 days in advance
Next cheapest way: Buy a Eurail Pass and make seat reservations as you go, usually only a day or less in advance.
Most expensive way: Buy train tickets as you go, or less than a week in advance.
Thinking about it this way should make the choice a bit easier. If you are the type who likes to plan each day and travel segment long before you even leave home, then buy tickets online for the best prices. This can be the best strategy for most shorter trips (10 days or less) because you simply don’t have enough time to change many things as you go anyway.
Buying a Eurail Pass won’t be quite as cheap, but you are buying a LOT of flexibility with the extra money. If you dream of making up your plans as you go, or even making up your plans just a few days in advance, this is almost always your best bet.
But if you wait too long, and just show up looking to buy train tickets as you go, they are going to cost a fortune. As recently as only a few years ago all seats would be the same price on many rail systems, so you could always just wing it. When each country computerized its rail systems so they can sell advanced tickets cheaper, they also had to keep track of seat reservations, so the whole pricing structure had changed to favor advanced ticket buyers and rail pass holders over those who’d prefer to just hop on any train as it is leaving the station.
Have a rail pass or itinerary question of your own?
It wasn’t planned but scores of people began asking me rail pass and itinerary questions at the bottom of this article and a few others. I’m happy to keep answering them and now I’m trying to organize them better as well so they are easier for other people to find.
If you have a question about specific types of European rail passes, please ask it in the comments below.
But if you have a question more about a European itinerary or other non-rail-pass questions, please click over to the European itineraries Q & A article and ask in the comments of that one.
Dear Roger
Best blog i ever seen!!! i was trying to read and is so much information that i couldn’t find a similar issue as mine so i wouldn’t disturb you, but honestly i need your advice.
Am getting merry on next September 2015, me and my wife would like to travel around Europe for one month before getting back to china where we live, our plan is to visit these countries ( Spain, France. Switzerland, Italy, Greece,Bulgaria ,Hungary, Czech republic, Germany, Netherlander, Norway and then back to France) Our departure country will be Tunisia just after the wedding. so if is possible to tell me which is the best way to get rail pass of one month for a couple and if is include ferries and buses.
I know it doesn’t seem like a honeymoon but my partner she likes adventures, so we decided to do this then we can have a real honeymoon back in Asia.
Thank you so much
Maher
Maher,
First off, trying to see 11 countries in one month is nearly impossible, and wouldn’t be enjoyable. Even 5 or 6 countries in a month would mean racing around and spending every third day on trains and in train stations. Norway isn’t near the others so you’d have to fly. Bulgaria is also remote, except by bus from Greece or Turkey.
If you are determined to see as much as you possibly can in one month, I think getting the 30-day continuous Eurail Pass would be best. You can make plans as you go, and in September you should have no trouble finding hotels on only a day or two notice.
I’m happy to help you sort this out, but you really need to sort out some priorities first and trim down your list of countries. For example, you want to spend a minimum of 3 nights in Paris, and the quickest recommended trip to Italy is 6 nights, with 1 night in Venice, 2 nights in Florence, and 3 nights in Rome. Choose the cities you most want to visit, and we’ll sort out an itinerary for you. Congratulations on the upcoming wedding and trip. -Roger
Roger, my wife and I are planning to visit Italy, Switzerland and France next month from Dec 20th thru Dec 30th, 2014. We will be traveling from Los Angeles. Please let me know what would be the most economical and reasonable route and is it a good idea to get Eurail passes? This is our first time to Europe and we would like to see as much as possible (without getting overwhelmed). We both are in our 40’s. Also, do you have any ideas about hotel stays? We really value your opinion and expert advise.
-Frank
Frank,
I’ll be happy to help if I can. However, in 11 days (especially in winter when there are only about 9 daylight hours in that area each day), I think 3 or maybe 4 total stops should be your maximum. You’ll obviously want to visit Paris, and I’d recommend Italy over Switzerland on a quick trip.
The main challenge on a quick trip like this is that it takes most of a day to get between most places, so you don’t want to spend half of your time on trains or in train stations on a trip like this. The “Big 3” cities in Italy (Rome, Florence, Venice) are only about 2 hours apart by train, so those are easy to string together even on a short trip. But from Paris to any of the cities in Italy, it’s a whole day on the train.
What I’d recommend is to fly into Paris and spend at least 3 nights if not 4 (it’s an amazing city). Then fly to Rome (much faster than the train) and spend 3 nights. You could take a train to Florence for 2 days and Venice for 1 day (it’s small enough to see in a day), and that would be the fastest and most efficient way to see all the highlights. You’d be pretty exhausted on your flight home to LA, but you’d have great memories.
If Switzerland is more interesting to you than Italy, you could spend 3 or 4 days in Paris and then take a train to Interlaken for 2 or 3 days, and then to Lucerne for 2 or 3 days. I think I’d save Switzerland for a summer trip, unless you want to do some skiing. Also, it’s incredibly expensive.
As for hotels or other specifics, I’ll be happy to help once you lock down a fairly specific itinerary. Feel free to write back in the comments and I’ll do my best. -Roger
Hi Roger,
I have planned for Europe trip for 14 days in Feb2015. I am planning to cover Italy, Switzerland and France.
Following is the estimated train travel :
1. Rome-Naples-Rome
2. Rome-Florence
3. Florence-Pisa
4. Florence-Venice-Florence
5. Florence-Lucerne
6. Internal travel in Switzerland
7. Lucerne-Paris
8. Internal travel in Paris
Kindly suggest appropiate Eurail Pass, considering my iternary.
Revert for any more clarification/iformation.
Regards,
Deven
Deven,
This looks like a great trip, and I’ve just been through most of these cities in the past couple of months myself. For better or worse, there isn’t really a good rail pass option for what you have in mind. The main reason is that those trips within Italy are already quite cheap on their own, as are the trips within Switzerland.
The good news is that nearly all of the trips you have in mind are about two hours or less by train, except of course for Florence to Lucerne (6 hours and 20 minutes), and Lucerne to Paris (4.5 hours).
The trains for your whole trip will be fairly cheap compared to the cost of a rail pass, especially if you follow these tips. First off, buy the Lucerne to Paris ticket as early as possible. If you buy 2 months out it will be quite cheap, but if you buy on travel day it’ll be very expensive. And buy as early as possible for the trips within Italy as well. If you buy them a week or more in advance they will be around €20 each, but if you wait until travel day they’ll be €40 or more each. Buy the Florence to Lucerne as early as possible as well.
The trains within Switzerland are rare in Europe in that they continue to run on fixed prices so they cost the same no matter when you buy. In February you should have no trouble buying them on the day you want to leave. By the way, Lucerne is fantastic, and I also highly recommend Interlaken as a base for seeing the best Alpine views and experiences. From Interlaken you can take a short train to Lauterbrunnen and then a cable car to the tiny village of Gimmelwald. If it’s not snowing at the time, it will be easy to reach and probably the highlight of your trip.
As always, let me know if you have any other questions on this. -Roger
Hi Roger,
My boyfriend and I are travelling to Europe for 4 weeks over May and June next year. He will be 27 and I will be 24 when we travel.
So far we have a rough itinerary which looks like:
(Fly into Paris) Paris – Bordeaux
Bordeaux – San Sebastián
San Sebastián – Barcelona
Barcelona – avignon
Avignon – Marseilles
Marseille – Nice
Nice – Venice
Venice – Florence
Florence – Rome (fly out of Rome)
Do you recommend us to buy a eurail pass? and do we still qualify for the saver pass? Or is it better that I purchase a youth pass and he still a 1st class pass?
I also read on the eurail website reserving trains in France needs to be done well in advance as there are limited reservable seats for eurail pass holders, is this correct?
Thanks so much for all this information and expertise!
Emma
Emma,
France is a tricky country for rail pass use, for the reasons you’ve mentioned. On most of the popular routes they only have high-speed trains, and those require a mandatory seat reservation that can be €20 or higher. And, they do have rail-pass quotas, which can be problematic in high season. May and June are close enough to high season that it would be wise to reserve at least a few days in advance, if not longer. All of those routes have departures every hour or two, so even if the morning train has met its quota, you can still usually book on the next train or the one after that.
Still, that makes using a rail pass sort of complicated, and it might not be worth it. I don’t think you could get the Saver discount because that only works if the whole group travels on one rail pass. You could get the discount if you both shared a 1st Class pass, but not if you bought the 2nd Class Youth Pass and he bought a 1st Class Pass. Not to mention that you’d both have to travel in 2nd Class in order to be together anyway.
I think your best bet on this trip would be to buy tickets individually. If you can buy at least a month or two in advance, they can be quite cheap, and the ones in Italy will be pretty cheap no matter when you buy them. Basically, buy as early as you can, and it should be cheaper and easier than a rail pass through France.
Let’s say you want to do a journey 3 days from now. You might check to find that the 9am departure is going for €75 in 2nd Class, but the 11am train is only €48. So you can still get decent deals only a few days out, if you are willing to leave a bit earlier or later. Best of luck, and feel free to ask more questions if you have them. -Roger
Hi Roger, thanks for the advices here! Excellent text!
I have a question about the reservations that are necessary with the Eurail pass.
I’m considering the Benelux-Germany for 5 days, as I’m planning to go from Rotterdam to Antwerp, then Brussels, Bruges and back to Rotterdam (the single Benelux-5 days is actually more expensive than adding Germany!)
Anyway, researching the available trips on RailEurope.com, I only get Thalys trains available, and the reservation is crazy expensive at 44 euros each (ie. Rotterdam-Antwerp)!!
If I do the same research on the other site you mentioned in your text, I have the option to choose non-reservation trains (Intercity trains).
Is RailEurope forcing me to travel only with the reserved trains, or is there something I’m missing here?
I’d like the freedom of the Benelux-Germany pass, but if I’m forced to add 44 euros each time I make a reservation, I’d prefer to travel on a fixed schedule, buying individual passes.
Thanks!
Tiago,
The RailEurope website doesn’t always seem to show all of the possibilities, as you’ve discovered. It’s owned by the France and Swiss Railways, and the Thalys trains are French, although I’m not implying a conspiracy. Anyway, yes, there are Intercity trains doing all of those routes, and they don’t require reservations. For example, from Rotterdam to Antwerp it takes 1 hour 13 minutes on the unreserved IC trains, compared to only 32 minutes on the Thalys.
It could be that you have the “show only the fastest trains” button pushed on the RailEurope website, or it could be that they’ve decided for you that the IC trains are too slow.
So you can do that whole trip without reservations or extra fees. Just head to the station and hop on the next train. Interestingly, I’m just finishing a 3-month Eurail trip right now, and the only reservations I’ve needed have been in Italy. In Germany, Netherlands, Austria, and Switzerland, you can still just hop on the train you want. Have a great trip. -Roger
FIrst of all, thank you so much for offering all this wonderful information, it is so helpful.
Also, I will be traveling for about 3 1/2 weeks for winter break to:
Flight to Brussels from Valencia, Spain>Bruges>Berlin>Munich>Prague>Salzburg>Vienna>Switzerland (not sure where yet)>France(not sure where yet, but New Years in Paris)>Valencia, Spain
Based off of your information, I’m pretty convinced that a 21 continuous global pass will be well worth the money, but will any of these legs require reservations other than overnight trains? Also, any suggestions for Switzerland and France? 🙂 Your help would be much appreciated!
Thank you,
Lindsay
Lindsay,
Yes, with that number of journeys within such a short time, I agree that a 21-day continuous Global Pass should be ideal. I’m on a train trip through many of these areas right now, and it’s been a pleasant surprise that very few legs have required seat reservations. I think the only ones (other than night trains) that are sure to need reservations are those in France, and possible in Spain. Some morning trains in northern countries also require a reservation, but if you leave after 9am they usually don’t.
As for where to go in Switzerland, if you want to enjoy the most amazing views of the Alps with plenty of things to do, head to Interlaken and then up the mountain to Gimmelwald or Murren. Lucerne is the other key tourist city in Switzerland, though there won’t be as much to see and do in winter. If you want to spend time in a city, then Bern is probably the best choice. Zurich is kind of a dud, to be honest. It’s all very expensive, but at least in the Alps you see things you can’t see anywhere else.
In France you’ll obviously want to spend several days in Paris. Beyond that, Nice is quite nice even in winter, while most other smaller towns and wine regions more or less hibernate.
Have a great trip, and feel free to ask other questions if they come up. -Roger
Hi Roger,
I read up on your advice on the Eurail pass and decided to purchase a Global pass 1 month for my upcoming trip (20% off due to winter).
My itinerary is
Oslo with family for Xmas, fly to Berlin then train:
Berlin>Prague>Budapest>Salzburg>Zurich>Geneva>Paris>London
My question is around the seat reservations, I have read different opinions on this as many of the trains have an optional reservation fee, however I don’t know if this is necessary during Dec/Jan?
What are your thoughts?
Thanks,
Georgie
Georgie,
It’s true that the reservation situation is confusing, even for me. Interestingly, I’m currently on a long Eurail Pass-trip and for my first 9 travel days I’ve not needed or wanted a seat reservation. I’ve gone all around Austria, Germany, Switzerland, and the Netherlands, and so far in all cases the seat reservations have been optional. Better still, the trains have been fairly empty in October, and the 1st Class compartments have always been more than half empty.
On the schedule I’ve seen that some departures require or sometimes recommend a seat reservation, but those are always the ones leaving around 8:00 that business travelers take. The ones leaving after 9:00 are less popular.
However, today I’m leaving from Munich to Milan, and Italy DOES require seat reservations so I got mine last night. And I know that France not only requires seat reservations, but there is a rail pass supplement as well for their fastest trains. For example, on a previous trip I was going from Basel to Paris and the 3-hour TGV train would be €40 for a seat, while the 4.5-hour train was something like €6 for a seat.
And as you hopefully know, the Paris to London part is only done by Eurostar train, which is not part of any rail pass system, although a discount is available for rail pass holders. The earlier you buy that ticket, the cheaper it will be.
Let me know if you have any other questions. In December and January, the trains will be fairly empty except for Monday mornings and Friday afternoons. -Roger
Hello Roger,
Could you tell me if Eurail Global pass 21 day consecutive @$840.00 each is the right choice for us. Family of 4 travelling to Amsterdam, 6 days later taking a 8 day cruise From Venice. Upon return to Venice we have 9 days before we have to fly back to US from Barcelona. We are going to visit different cities mostly in Italy.
Tony,
I’d need to see more specifics about your planned train itinerary to be sure, but I have a strong hunch that a rail pass would not be good value for you. You’ll be happy to know that train prices in Italy are among the most affordable in Europe, particularly if you buy well in advance. The distances between the major tourist cities are also short.
For example, the walk-up 2nd Class train fare from Rome to Florence is €43, but only €29 if you buy a couple weeks in advance, or only €19 if you buy two months in advance. Going between Milan, Venice, Florence, and Rome are all about the same, so each ride should cost under €50 and maybe even half that. In order for that continuous rail pass to pay off, you’d need to change cities every day, and that would be no fun.
For trains in other countries in Europe, the fares are higher, but you can also save quite a bit by buying in advance. So if you can book at least a few of the non-Italy tickets in advance, you can still “wing it” a bit in Italy and keep expenses down even buying tickets as you go.
Have a great trip, and let me know if you have any other questions. -Roger
Hi Roger
My Daughter and I arrive in Vienna on 16th December, my son plays Basketball in Romania and we have decided to spernd Christmas with him in Prague.
He will travel from Bucharest to meet us in Vienna on 20th December. As a group we will spend a day in Salzburg and a day in Innsbruck. On 23rd December we travel to Prague for Christmas. We would like to travel to another Country is possible. My son will need to travel back to Bucharest on 27th and assume it would be better for him to purchase a return airline ticket. and myself and daughter fly back to Australia on 29th December
My dilemma is what type of passes to buy, or should we just purchase train tickets online
I would really appreciate your assistance
My son is actually going to get a train from Bucharest to Vienna or maybe a bus from Oradea in Romania to Vienna to meet up with us.
Really hope you can offer some advice, would love to try and travel to another Country while we are there
look forward to your expert advice
kind regards
Charmaine
Charmaine,
First off, there won’t be a rail pass that would be helpful to anyone in your group for a trip like this. Fortunately, train fares in this part of Europe are fairly cheap, especially if you buy them well in advance. Also, buses are actually a better (and often cheaper) option in the eastern countries.
Your son might consider flying instead because the train trip from Bucharest to Vienna would take something like 15 hours. If he’s actually starting in Oradea, he could get a train to Budapest and another to Vienna and it wouldn’t be too long. Those trains within Romania are slow, and not known for comfort.
As for the rest of the trip, you have quite a few good options for other places to see. Innsbruck is basically a ski resort without many interesting sights, so I wouldn’t recommend going there unless you wanted to hit the slopes. You’d be much better off spending both days in Salzburg (I’m actually there at this moment, although leaving today) because it’s a much better sightseeing town.
Your other good options nearby are Munich, which is 90 minutes by train from Salzburg, or Budapest, which is farther and in the other direction, but still a really interesting city. Another option I’ll highly recommend is Cesky Krumlov in the Czech Republic. It’s a gorgeous small town between Prague and Vienna, and it would be a nice contrast to those large cities.
If you go from Prague to Cesky Krumlov to Vienna (or the other way around) it’s faster and better to go by express bus. I actually just did this trip last week and I can assure you that the buses are faster and better. The main company in Czech Republic to look for is Student Agency (it’s an all-ages service, that’s just the name).
The smaller towns like Salzburg or Cesky Krumlov will close down a bit on Christmas, but if you are going to be in Prague you should be fine because it’s always filled with visitors and it’s very tourist oriented. However you decide to get around, buy your tickets as early as possible. Many locals will be traveling home (in every direction) just before and after Christmas, so some of the trains and buses will be full in those days. If you buy early you’ll obviously lock in seats and also get the best prices.
Let me know if you have any other questions on this. It happens to be about exactly where I now am and have been researching. -Roger
Hi Roger
Thank you for your prompt reply.
I will now stop worrying and just book the regular trains and buses and will definitely visit Cesky Krumlov , I am very grateful for your help.
My Daughter has replied after I sent her your response. “What A Major BOSS !!
Thank you again
Charmaine
Hi Roger!
I have been going through your post and I got some really valuable informations. I thank you for that.
I am planning to visit western Europe for 45 days. I have an itinerary in mind looking like this:
– Switzerland family visit (7 days)
– Munich (1 day), coming from Winterthur and leaving the same day by night train for Venice.
– Venice (half day). I don’t really need to stay longer in the city. leave after lunch for Pisa where I just want to see the leaning tower then leave for Rome in the evening or skip Pisa and go straight to Rome.
– 2 days in Rome then fly to Brussels.
– Brussels and surrounding (15 days with a 2-days trip to Antwerp and Amsterdam during that time).
– Paris (4-5 days).
– Spain (6 days) then fly back to Brussels.
– Brussels and surroundings (7 days).
I know it’s a complicated itinerary but since i already know exactly what to see and to do in each city, I think it’s possible.
I just need to know if you can suggest a better itinerary and what pass to book. I have no problem booking 3 months in advance.
Regards.
Steve,
This is a very unusual itinerary you have in mind, in addition to being complicated. It sounds like you have specific things in mind to see along the way. Still, I can’t help but mention that Brussels is not really known as a great tourist city because it’s expensive and also mostly dedicated to business travelers and diplomat-types. My uncle lives there (a former bureaucrat) and I get antsy after only one or two days there.
On the other hand, there are many other towns in Belgium that are really nice and interesting, with Bruges obviously being the most famous. It sounds like you know what you are doing, but it is weird to dedicate 1 day to Munich, Venice, and Pisa, with 2 days in Rome, and then spend 3 weeks in or near Brussels.
As for train tickets or passes, if you are willing and able to book 3 months in advance then you’ll get a better deal by booking individual tickets. They can be surprisingly cheap when they first go on sale (up to 4 months out), and the prices only get really high in the last week or two. Eurail Passes can actually be kind of expensive on a per-ride basis so they are really only ideal for people who like to make plans as they go.
So if you are fine locking in all of your train rides (and flights) at least 2 months in advance, that will definitely be your cheapest option. I hope I’ve answered your question, but if not, or if you have any other questions, please feel free to reply. Bon voyage. -Roger